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said this on television, but need is right. she actually stumbled on the truth. obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game. that is his game. he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see this in press conferences, where he does not have a prompter. he had never been good at press conferences. he rambles, the press is always unimpressed with him. this was a situation where yet more control of the debate, because he picks the questionnaire, and he can decide how long he wants to take for the answer. his only advantage in the next debate will be this. it will be in a town hall. he has got more ability to connect with an audience than romney. he will have an advantage in the second debate that he did not have been the first. >> would you rather be good or lucky? 7.8% unemployment rate. that is pretty good news. >> unless you look at the actual numbers. if you look at those with new jobs, about 114,000. you have to have 150,000 to stay at the same rate. what has been happening is you have people leavi
said this on television, but need is right. she actually stumbled on the truth. obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game. that is his game. he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see this in press conferences, where he does not have a prompter. he had never been good at press conferences. he rambles, the press is always unimpressed with him. this was a situation where yet more control of the debate, because he picks the questionnaire, and he can decide how...
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turns out they were right on the mark. >> but the other quick point is governor romney left a lot on the table that is going to come back in the subsequent debates and it will be litigated in a much more fierce way than it was on wednesday night. >> the third debate is going to matter more than the first debate. it's the last one people see, although there is early voting. but by this point a month from now we may not be talking about this. >> you had not only the lack of specificity. it becomes a question of who do you trust. the budget is going to have to be cut and hard choices are going to have to be made. they both believe it. the question is who do you trust? the president talked about governor romney's screlt plans. that notice of secrecy showed up in focus groups. it's why when they talk about governor romney not releasing his tax returns -- gwen: which didn't come up. >> no. what governor romney is hiding is the argument that the democrats wants to be talking about. >> if the president had one good line it was on that issue. he basically said if mitt romney health care plan
turns out they were right on the mark. >> but the other quick point is governor romney left a lot on the table that is going to come back in the subsequent debates and it will be litigated in a much more fierce way than it was on wednesday night. >> the third debate is going to matter more than the first debate. it's the last one people see, although there is early voting. but by this point a month from now we may not be talking about this. >> you had not only the lack of...
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on the polls, evan is right. if 90% are pointing in one direction, is probably true. but you have to apply a formula when you decide to was going to be likely to show. if you apply the model of the 2008 electorate, you get one result, which is highly pressure obama. but if you say the electorate would look -- and the pro obama. but if you say the electorate looks more like 2004, then the race is even. it is not a conspiracy, it is a question of which way to model the electorate and which way is going to break down on election day. >> we have a debate coming up, nina. what is your advice to mitt romney? how does he gained ascendancy in that debate? >> he has to have a real moment, and i'm sure they are looking for one. i'm sure they are rehearsing many spontaneous moments. obama reportedly is not spending a lot of time prepping because he has to run the country -- >> oh, yeah, he is running the country out of ohio. >> you campaigned around the country and -- >> jay-z and "the view" takes a lot of effort. run the country, my foot. >> as i said, obama is not a gifted deb
on the polls, evan is right. if 90% are pointing in one direction, is probably true. but you have to apply a formula when you decide to was going to be likely to show. if you apply the model of the 2008 electorate, you get one result, which is highly pressure obama. but if you say the electorate would look -- and the pro obama. but if you say the electorate looks more like 2004, then the race is even. it is not a conspiracy, it is a question of which way to model the electorate and which way is...
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mike's right that this created an opportunity for romney. he's also right that romney performed better than his campaign has performed recently. but let's remember what most of the problems that romney has had recently. his campaign's been not that great. the president's team has defined him in a negative way with millions dollars of advertising and so far. he's been a rotten candidate. the things that have really hurt him before his 47% statement, his reaction to libya the stuff that happened to europe. there's a variety of things that happened and it's all about his bad candidate skills. so the part i want to agree with mike about is, he has a huge opportunity going forward but it's not the campaign or not only the campaign that has the opportunity. what the spotlight's going to be on tomorrow is, is the mitt romney that we saw last night in this debate who seems not like the mitt romney we've seen for the last six months, is that mitt romney the mitt romney we see tomorrow. do we see a new reinvigorated mitt romney. is he now putting a fo
mike's right that this created an opportunity for romney. he's also right that romney performed better than his campaign has performed recently. but let's remember what most of the problems that romney has had recently. his campaign's been not that great. the president's team has defined him in a negative way with millions dollars of advertising and so far. he's been a rotten candidate. the things that have really hurt him before his 47% statement, his reaction to libya the stuff that happened...
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he did not have the right sound. instead of sounding sympathetic, to people that lost a job it was a little bit well, i don't care if it is getting better. it really isn't getting better. and you can't come across as rooting against, oh, it's actually 11%, there's got to be a sense that, you know, that you are happy that people are-- that things are better. you can't come across as cheer up, eventually things will get worse. that can't be part of your message. >> woodruff: and you mentioned the debate. to the two of you, here we are 48 hours afterwards, david, does it look any different as you look backward through the lens? >> i have two questions. one, first on the romney side he established much more moderate persona i think than he has at any time. so the question to me is how does he develop tham. does he sort of flush out that moderate persona. and try to hit the people he really has to hit which is white working class women in places like ohio to show how government can help them out and how he has a plan to h
he did not have the right sound. instead of sounding sympathetic, to people that lost a job it was a little bit well, i don't care if it is getting better. it really isn't getting better. and you can't come across as rooting against, oh, it's actually 11%, there's got to be a sense that, you know, that you are happy that people are-- that things are better. you can't come across as cheer up, eventually things will get worse. that can't be part of your message. >> woodruff: and you...
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not everyone is willing to admit president obama is actually leading mitt romney right now. despite what the polling data shows. well, stephen colbert weighed in. >> you can't trust polls, right fox news? >> the latest fox news polls give president obama an edge in three key swing states. once you isolate voters who are extremely interested in the election, the race is much closer. >> romney's tied when you focus on the inexpressibly intrigued. and he's up by two points when you count only voters who are psychotically engaged. folks, i have got my own source of polls, conservative blogger dean chambers who analyzed these polls favoring obama and then reached the scientific conclusion that they just didn't look right. chambers' work throws all polls into doubt now. even the internal ones i have taken of myself. i mean, the results say i'm not that excited about mitt romney, but as a conservative i feel like i should love him. maybe the sample size is too small or maybe i checked the wrong box and i'm actually latino, you know? >> it's not a good sign just six weeks from elect
not everyone is willing to admit president obama is actually leading mitt romney right now. despite what the polling data shows. well, stephen colbert weighed in. >> you can't trust polls, right fox news? >> the latest fox news polls give president obama an edge in three key swing states. once you isolate voters who are extremely interested in the election, the race is much closer. >> romney's tied when you focus on the inexpressibly intrigued. and he's up by two points when...
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there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama and governor romney. ( applause ) >> jim. >> lehrer: gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start with the economy, segment one, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs? you have two minutes, each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss is determined, mr. president, you go first. >> well, thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality. there are a lot of points i want to make tonight but the most important one is that 20 years ago, i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me, and so i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary, and let you know that a year from now, we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs remember lost. the auto industry was on the brink of collapse, the financial
there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama and governor romney. ( applause ) >> jim. >> lehrer: gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start with the economy, segment one, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs? you have two minutes, each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss is determined, mr. president, you go first. >> well, thank you very much,...
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there is a noise exception right now, though as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [ cheers and applause ] >> jim. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy segment 1, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about creating new jobs? you have two minutes -- each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has been determined mr. president you go first. >> obama: thank you very much for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of colorado for your hospitality. 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to a marry me. so i just want to wish sweety you happy anniversary, and let you know a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. [ laughter ] >> obama: four years ago we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost the auto industry was on the brink of collapse, the financial system has frozen up and because of the resilience and determination of the american people we have be
there is a noise exception right now, though as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [ cheers and applause ] >> jim. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy segment 1, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about creating new jobs? you have two minutes -- each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has been determined mr. president you go first. >> obama: thank you very much for this opportunity. i...
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speaking of the topic we were discussing romney went further right picking his v.p. he was supposed to to help him. >> what is interesting on the polling of medicare and seniors who is obama's weakest demographic basically until the last month or two? it was seniors. seniors were very suspicious of obama. the foreignness the youth they saw him as liberal. and we've seen a dramatic turn around in call the key states. if you peel it back a little more, you find that is overwhelmingly related to the medicare question. the numbers on the medicare question particularly among seniors has shifted dramatically in obama's direction in just a month after ryan was initially picked. you'll recall they went very hard on medicare. they decided to run to their weakness, and they started to basically just lying or at least being incredibly dishonest saying that obama is going to do this and had cut 700 billion in change when, in fact ryan had cut the same amount in his budget proposal. you saw a little tightening when ryan was picked for the ticket, but the numbers have gone overwhe
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that is the new focus on the right. romney was making that point. >> forgive me. that is it a complete misinterpretation. i sat there with all due respect. >> you do not have all due respect for me. >> go ahead. >> hospitality. >> you are eating up time here. ok, it is my turn to talk now. >> there is a distinction -- you overlook the distinction. tax rates and tax revenue. when romney is saying -- how plane can i make it? we are going to cut rates. we are not going to reduce the amount of revenue. exactly as what happened in 1986 with the reagan tax reform. you cut the rates, you eliminate deductions, and you end up with the same amount of revenue. it is what was recommended in the commission that obama had appointed. >> there is study after study after study that says even if he succeeded in doing that, it is not enough to achieve the targets we're talking about. what is interesting is, you never ar romney say, no new taxes. you do not hear him say that. >> colby? >> he proposes a 20% across-the- board tax cuts. >> marginal tax rate. >> alternative minimum tax.
that is the new focus on the right. romney was making that point. >> forgive me. that is it a complete misinterpretation. i sat there with all due respect. >> you do not have all due respect for me. >> go ahead. >> hospitality. >> you are eating up time here. ok, it is my turn to talk now. >> there is a distinction -- you overlook the distinction. tax rates and tax revenue. when romney is saying -- how plane can i make it? we are going to cut rates. we are...
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there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. we're asking debate watchers, those who watched the debate to the history books. tonight, just like we will after every upcoming debate, we're breaking it down, issue by issue. this means more talk from the candidate on a particular topic. looking at some of the totals, we'll show you what's going on. but, first, here are some of the highlights from the first presidential debate. >> what things would i cut from spending? first of all, i will eliminate all programs by this test. if they don't pass it. is the program so critical, it's worth boring money from china to pay for it? obama care is on my list. i apologize mr. president. jim, i'm sorry, i had stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird, like you too. but i won't keep on spending money to borrow money from china to pay for. i'll take programs that are currently good programs but could be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to state. and make government more efficient, cut back the number of employees, combine age
there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. we're asking debate watchers, those who watched the debate to the history books. tonight, just like we will after every upcoming debate, we're breaking it down, issue by issue. this means more talk from the candidate on a particular topic. looking at some of the totals, we'll show you what's going on. but, first, here are some of the highlights from the first presidential debate. >> what things would i cut from...
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romney wants to raise taxes on the middle class in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy. he rebutted that very effectively i thought. but i would also like to see more details. >> paul: he gave a couple of details in regard to, for example, here is how you reduce deductions and exemptions, a $25,000 $50,000 limit that any one individual could use. that was specific offered by marty felled stein of harvard as a way to make tax reform work. >> and both of them embraced the simpson-bowles commission and the simpson-bowles commission put out three different tax rates and each rate you will have to do something with the deductions and exemptions, eliminate all of them or retain them and romney says i'm going to drop rates and put all of those deductions and exemptions on the table for negotiation. any serious person in politics knows that's the starting point pour reworking the tax code. you don't have to get into the fine detail at this point. >> paul: kim, what do they have to do to maintain the momentum, the romney campaign. >> you see them doing this. now flooding the zone
romney wants to raise taxes on the middle class in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy. he rebutted that very effectively i thought. but i would also like to see more details. >> paul: he gave a couple of details in regard to, for example, here is how you reduce deductions and exemptions, a $25,000 $50,000 limit that any one individual could use. that was specific offered by marty felled stein of harvard as a way to make tax reform work. >> and both of them embraced the...
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up next, a debate guru tells us what romney and obama did right ÷g÷w >> chris: he has been called the nation's best political debate coach. he prepped george w. bush in 2004. john mccain in 2008 and michele bachmann and then mitt romney in this primary campaign. we asked brett o'donnell to join us today to talk about this week's debate and how both candidates need to recalibrate for the next one. the big i think it is fare to coming out of this what happened to president obama. why did he do so poorly. obviously you were in the room but best guess what do you think his debate team failed to do to prepare him for wednesday night? >> three areas where you have to prepare a candidate. the first s they have to know the issues and policy on both sides. i think president obama s fine in that area. but the last two areas i think his team may have failed. the second is you have to have a strategy going into the debate to execute. and the final thing is you have to be mentally prepared. i don't think the president was really mentally prepared to take on governor romney and i certainly thin
up next, a debate guru tells us what romney and obama did right ÷g÷w> chris: he has been called the nation's best political debate coach. he prepped george w. bush in 2004. john mccain in 2008 and michele bachmann and then mitt romney in this primary campaign. we asked brett o'donnell to join us today to talk about this week's debate and how both candidates need to recalibrate for the next one. the big i think it is fare to coming out of this what happened to president obama. why did he do...
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up next, a debate guru tells us what romney and obama did right and wrong this week and how they need to rethink their strategies. úwñoa [ male announcer ] citibank's app for ipad makes it easy for anne to manage her finances when she's on the go. even when she's not going anywhere. citibank for ipad. easier banking. standard at citibank. helps him deposit his checks. jay also like it when mother nature helps him wash his car. mother nature's cool like that. mobile check deposit. easier banking. standard at citibank. >> chris: he has been called the nation's best political debate coach. he prepped george w. bush in 2004. john mccain in 2008 and michele bachmann and then mitt romney in this primary campaign. we asked brett o'donnell to join us today to talk about this week's debate and how both candidates need to recalibrate for the next one. the big i think it is fare to coming out of this debate is what happened to president obama. why did he do so poorly. obviously you were in the room but best guess what do you think his debate team failed to do to prepare him for wednesday nigh
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romney has said that he wants to use the debates as a clarifying moment. he thinks the democrats have waged an inaccurate campaign. he has said he expects obama to tell more untruths on the debate stage but he thinks there is a real opportunity for him. there is congratulations from the romney campaign, what a great debater obama is and in some ways they are mediocre debaters. there have been some mistakes. obama is likeable enough moment with hillary clinton. gwen: think of the debates you have covered, chuck -- >> because i'm old. [laughter] gwen: which once would you say have made a difference in the outcome? >> well, i'm not actually this old -- [laughter] >> clearly when gerald ford said that the poland not under soviet domination that was one of his memorable type of gaffes and the big putdown from lloyd bentsten and dan quayle. they don't have a moment where they say that guy is clearly better than the other guy. they are both well prepared. these are smart people. and not likely to make a mistake. romney's great hope is he can use these debates to
romney has said that he wants to use the debates as a clarifying moment. he thinks the democrats have waged an inaccurate campaign. he has said he expects obama to tell more untruths on the debate stage but he thinks there is a real opportunity for him. there is congratulations from the romney campaign, what a great debater obama is and in some ways they are mediocre debaters. there have been some mistakes. obama is likeable enough moment with hillary clinton. gwen: think of the debates you...
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so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favorite right now. we have seen obama recently in a higher position than he's been in all year, maybe higher than you would expect based on where the economy is. so i do think romney should have a tail wind at the same time the stuff we're mentioning where he also has tried to avoid articulating where his positions are on a lot of issues, a lot that is common sense but if you take positions further away from the center that damages you and he's not done a lot of running to the center at all in this campaign. that's unusual and he'll be proebds for more detail during the debate. >> the american public or people are crying out for the etch a sketch moment. joy, in terms of managing expectations, the guy that has managed them in his own fashion is chris christie. i want to play a little chris christie sound doubling down on the fact that this is a big deal tomorrow night for mitt romney. >> this whole race will be turned upside down thursday morning. >> what are you doing, christie? for god sake's if romne
so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favorite right now. we have seen obama recently in a higher position than he's been in all year, maybe higher than you would expect based on where the economy is. so i do think romney should have a tail wind at the same time the stuff we're mentioning where he also has tried to avoid articulating where his positions are on a lot of issues, a lot that is common sense but if you take positions further away from the center that damages...
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the idea that romney is pivoting from the right to the center. on issues like his tax cuts, on immigration, on bipartisanship. do you see him sovereigning the conservative positions. >> well it has been driven by the presidency and i don't think if you asked a single conservative among the 70 million who are watching him and were absolutely, very excited by his proponents, they feel they have... what he has done is >> chris: this tax cut is not a tax cut anymore, and, on immigration, he's not going to end the waivers, for the -- young people? >> a lot of this is, the press pivoting off of what barack obama has described his plan to be. mitt romney has been fairly consistent about what he plans to do. he went out there and said it, more clearly, to everyone, on tuesday night. and, it actually puts the obama team in a difficult position, it was the heart of their strategy was to paint him as this outrageous guy with failed ideas. that has not worked now. and, so what do they do? they can't do a big change of themselves, and can't go out an propose
the idea that romney is pivoting from the right to the center. on issues like his tax cuts, on immigration, on bipartisanship. do you see him sovereigning the conservative positions. >> well it has been driven by the presidency and i don't think if you asked a single conservative among the 70 million who are watching him and were absolutely, very excited by his proponents, they feel they have... what he has done is >> chris: this tax cut is not a tax cut anymore, and, on...
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. >>> right now president obama and governor romney are getting ready for this week's big battle. first presidential debate. our next guest says it's the last cans to make that first impression. governor romney needs to figure out how to appear aggressive but nice while the president needs to avoid missteps. john fund is co-author of "who is counting?" great to see you. i was going to ask you first. is it a question when it comes to a first debate of first impression, what is the impact? >> for the challenger in this case, mitt romney it's very important because a lot of american people have only seen soundbites of him. this is almost like a job application. the first time the american people are going to be able seeing mitt romney for 90 minutes straight. therefore, it's very important he make a good i am presenting. for the president. this is president that was elected on enormous upsurge, hope and change in 2008. economy the sour. he has to recapture that and explain to the american people why they should waited longer for hope and change. >> jamie: what do you think is the mos
. >>> right now president obama and governor romney are getting ready for this week's big battle. first presidential debate. our next guest says it's the last cans to make that first impression. governor romney needs to figure out how to appear aggressive but nice while the president needs to avoid missteps. john fund is co-author of "who is counting?" great to see you. i was going to ask you first. is it a question when it comes to a first debate of first impression, what is...
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romney takes this american exceptionism too far in saying we are the good guys, our country right or wrong, these foreigners, europe is sort of bad, it is sort of, you know, it is sort of rotten, at least. and the rest of the world is dangerous and the arabs and all, there is a sense of the other is evil, it is not evil dangerous and i think the president is a much more positive view about the world, and perhaps less truculent and less mill tar risk so i think that is a big decision .. do we want to continue to join the world or do we want to stand-alone and use american exceptionism as our sort of justification for more military action? i think it is a real difference. it is within the 40-yard line on both sides but there is a difference, center right, center left and i think it is a good judgment for the american people to think which direction should we be heading. >> #02: thank you, chris, great to have you. >> charlie, it is always great, thank you. >> rose: we will be back, stay with us. >> rose: we continue our analysis of last night's debate from washington, david david leonh
romney takes this american exceptionism too far in saying we are the good guys, our country right or wrong, these foreigners, europe is sort of bad, it is sort of, you know, it is sort of rotten, at least. and the rest of the world is dangerous and the arabs and all, there is a sense of the other is evil, it is not evil dangerous and i think the president is a much more positive view about the world, and perhaps less truculent and less mill tar risk so i think that is a big decision .. do we...
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wait a second, romney rooip, romney, ryan. there we go. all right. that's great. >> oh sweet jesus. >>and now to my point. that is a whole bunch of bunk! the powerful my steal an election but they cannot steal democracy. septic disasters are disgusting and costly, but avoidable. the rid-x septic subscriber program helps prevent backups by sending you monthly doses right to your door so you will never forget to maintain your system. sign up at rid-x.com. are they contagious? i don't think so. [ male announcer ] contract the rainbow! taste the rainbow! >> eliot: in a climate worker rights have been under attack the teacher's strike resulted in significant gains for teachers and the educational reforms they support. in president of the american federation of teachers, the chicago teachers' national union, wrote and i quote . . . weingarten, the president of the american federation of teachers, the chicago teachers' national union. randi, thank for joining us. >> it's always great to be with you, eliot. >> eliot: thank you. you did reform late the education conversation with the strike.
wait a second, romney rooip, romney, ryan. there we go. all right. that's great. >> oh sweet jesus. >>and now to my point. that is a whole bunch of bunk! the powerful my steal an election but they cannot steal democracy. septic disasters are disgusting and costly, but avoidable. the rid-x septic subscriber program helps prevent backups by sending you monthly doses right to your door so you will never forget to maintain your system. sign up at rid-x.com. are they contagious? i don't...
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>> for me, it helped soften romney. to hear it right from the horse's mouth that he does believe in the role of government helping in day to day maybe not to the extent of obama does was helpful. >> i think that, you know, if we look at government in the, in the eyes of history there have been very important roles that government has played in changing, that various things that are very important to all of us today whether it be civil rights, whether it be, you know workplace safety, you know, how long you work every week, these kind of things are all things that were implemented from the top down and nobody here's going to say that the 40-hour work week was a bad idea. nobody's going to say that. that... that you know people of color can now vote. nobody's going to say that. it just, out of were they very, very popular things when they came out? no, they were not. voting right, voting rights act, civil rights act were very... very vilified in many parts of the country. but the idea that you know obamacare is not the an
>> for me, it helped soften romney. to hear it right from the horse's mouth that he does believe in the role of government helping in day to day maybe not to the extent of obama does was helpful. >> i think that, you know, if we look at government in the, in the eyes of history there have been very important roles that government has played in changing, that various things that are very important to all of us today whether it be civil rights, whether it be, you know workplace...
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so the danger of this tax reform trap that governor romney is trying to sell right now is that you're going to end up with massively lower tax rates and you're not going to broaden the base much at all such that you'll have an explosive budget deficit, it's very much what we saw in the bush supply side trickle down years. >> bob, debatess left. the vice presidential debate, the town hall presidential debate and then the debate on foreign policy. >> i think we throw out the myth that somehow or other only the first debates matter. i think the other debates will have big audiences. i'm through with the expectations game. i think vice president biden will do very well next week. i think the president will bring his best game to these next two debates. this guy is a fourth quarter player. we saw it on health care and in the 2008 primaries. when the going to gets tough, when the pressure is on, he really steps up to it. i think barack obama whether do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters think about this,do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters thin
so the danger of this tax reform trap that governor romney is trying to sell right now is that you're going to end up with massively lower tax rates and you're not going to broaden the base much at all such that you'll have an explosive budget deficit, it's very much what we saw in the bush supply side trickle down years. >> bob, debatess left. the vice presidential debate, the town hall presidential debate and then the debate on foreign policy. >> i think we throw out the myth that...
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romney ryan. romney ryan. romney ryan. there we go. all right. that's great. thank you. >> john: now this prompted a rather public mocking from joe scarborough. but i think it was an example of governor romney being a little stiff and trying to do some crowd work which isn't his specialty. i thought the governor took a bad rap on that one. what do you think? >> in that case, when morning joe showed the clip of it, they heard people chanting but you couldn't really quite make out what they were chanting. but morning joe added a subtitle to indicate that the crowd had been chanting ryan's name. and that -- which made it look like romney came in and said add my name, too which makes him look a little bit desperate. i was actually there at that event as were you know, 30, 40, 50 other reporters. almost all of us heard that the crowd was chanting romney. and he was -- it is still awkward. he still seems a little awkward. but it makes him seem a little less desperate. i pointed that out on "buzzfeed." wrote an item pointing that out. as did some conservative blogs a
romney ryan. romney ryan. romney ryan. there we go. all right. that's great. thank you. >> john: now this prompted a rather public mocking from joe scarborough. but i think it was an example of governor romney being a little stiff and trying to do some crowd work which isn't his specialty. i thought the governor took a bad rap on that one. what do you think? >> in that case, when morning joe showed the clip of it, they heard people chanting but you couldn't really quite make out...
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it really is stunning to try to fact check romney, right? >> the one that got me was the revenue reducing tax cut, and talk about this resulting growing of the base and, you know, it's -- it's so interesting that -- that the revenue-neutral concept is pretty much just nomenclature they are suggesting that as the tax base grows, in the future we'll recover revenues and therefore the tax cut will be paid for. well that sounds an awful lot like the bush recession, where they fought two wars that weren't on line, they gave tax cuts to the primarily upper levels, and didn't have a funding mechanism and then wonder idea we as a economy crashed. it was the same order of thinking. give the tax cut but don't worry about paying for it. that sounds like recent history repeated. >> stephanie: right. >> i just think we're going into the danger zone. >> stephanie: obviously facts and numbers supporting the president, including the unemployment rate falling to 7.8%. that's huge news, isn't it? >> i think it's great news. knowing that 7.8% is the lowest it
it really is stunning to try to fact check romney, right? >> the one that got me was the revenue reducing tax cut, and talk about this resulting growing of the base and, you know, it's -- it's so interesting that -- that the revenue-neutral concept is pretty much just nomenclature they are suggesting that as the tax base grows, in the future we'll recover revenues and therefore the tax cut will be paid for. well that sounds an awful lot like the bush recession, where they fought two wars...
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bush had trouble with. >> eliot: you're right. romney came across as smart. that's what affected it. doug, my question was every time i heard the $5 trillion gig, why did the president not turn to him and say if you do not plan to add a $5 trillion revenue loss what loopholes will you close? give us the broad brush outlines because without that, you don't have credibility. it would have seemed to me to be the appropriate response. >> absolutely. he could have just kept pressing him and i -- before the debate, my whole view was the president needs to spend little bit of time on defense and then just go on the offense. because mitt romney is so vulnerable to attacks not only on his current policies but on his previous policies and in being a flip-flopper and certainly his time as a businessman which really didn't come up that much which was surprising. certainly the president didn't press it but you didn't hear a lot about mitt romney talking about and bragging about how he created jobs because he knew he was vulnerable there. you didn't hear a lot about his ti
bush had trouble with. >> eliot: you're right. romney came across as smart. that's what affected it. doug, my question was every time i heard the $5 trillion gig, why did the president not turn to him and say if you do not plan to add a $5 trillion revenue loss what loopholes will you close? give us the broad brush outlines because without that, you don't have credibility. it would have seemed to me to be the appropriate response. >> absolutely. he could have just kept pressing him...
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romney will win that state. florida is a swing state. polls suggest the president is pulling away from mr. romney. it is in that too close to call category. take me inside florida and tell me what has happened on this issue. they are the ones, with their aggressive push, put this issue fote clor r t en coffor r a lotf americans on the front pages of papers about this issue. >> it is amazing we are talking about voting controversies in florida in 2012, given what went on in 2000. it is staggering to think that florida could be going back to those days. but what happened is, after republican governor richard scott was elected in 2010, he and the republican legislature worked to reword clause and they made major changes. one was to put severe burdens on voter registration drives and prevent groups like the league of women voters from registering voters. that was enacted in 2011 and was blocked by the courts in may, 2012. for about a year, voter registration drives were shut down in florida. he cut back early voting from 14 days to 8 days, i
romney will win that state. florida is a swing state. polls suggest the president is pulling away from mr. romney. it is in that too close to call category. take me inside florida and tell me what has happened on this issue. they are the ones, with their aggressive push, put this issue fote clor r t en coffor r a lotf americans on the front pages of papers about this issue. >> it is amazing we are talking about voting controversies in florida in 2012, given what went on in 2000. it is...
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joy, this is a bad place for romney to go. >> this was the one bone to romney threw to the far right. they have this obsession with pbs in doctrine ating chi
joy, this is a bad place for romney to go. >> this was the one bone to romney threw to the far right. they have this obsession with pbs in doctrine ating chi